Subject	do some search/reading. this will get you started >>>
Posted by	Z U N L on September 14, 2005 at 11:59 PM
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In Reply To	I gotta do this..... posted by dirtyjerZ on September 14, 2005 at 10:34 PM
Message	http://www.twinturbo.net/net/viewmsg.aspx?forum=general&msg_id=1591144 Read through some of the responses, pay particular attention to stuff regarding Z1's business practices. http://www.twinturbo.net/net/viewmsg.aspx?forum=general&msg_id=1524004 More Z1 drama and flaming. http://www.twinturbo.net/net/viewmsg.aspx?forum=general&msg_id=1458382 Customer complaints and even more drama. As I have said, there are plenty of people who have had good experiences with Z1, but there are also a fair number who have had bad experiences with them. If you look hard enough, you will find plenty of times when their reputation for quality and service have been called into question. And even if not all of the incidents are their fault, there have been far too many for it to be entirely coincidence. In my years of observing these forums, I have seen far too many questionable incidents and quite a lot of "less-than-professional" behavior coming from Z1. If I knew them closely and personally, and if I were local and could "check in" on them while they worked on my car, then I might have far less reservations about sending them my business--but I am not, cannot, and do not. If I send my car to a shop, I am putting my trust in their knowledge, their attention to detail, their standards of quality, and their devotion to those standards. Quite frankly, they seem very unprofessional, and that is not where I would like to put my trust. They maybe be great guys, and they seem to be both knowledgeable and capable, but they also seem to be rather inconsistant, and, at times, careless and juvenile. It's kind of like with ebay: Do you pay attention to people's feedback ratings? I generally refuse to deal with anyone who has a feedback less than 98% positive. I just prefer to minimize my risk--within certain parameters--of being screwed over. And that is why I personally would not send my business to Z1. "The two seater is being joined in a few weeks by a larger two-plus-two model with a rear seat for munchkins." ~Jim Mateja, Chicago Tribune, in regards to the Z32. Andrew Janeshek // jnshk@aol.com // 1992 NA 2+2 [Stage 2-ish]
Follow Ups	Z1motorsports NA TT conversion - NE-1-4-10-S 19:21:36 09/14/05 I'm really not up for this tonight, not that it matters (n/m) - robo (sebring1970) 19:24:21 09/14/05 lol.... (n/m) - Rbadger 19:34:27 09/14/05 2nd post you're not up for tonight... - zgene4 23:06:12 09/14/05 this would be the first post. I was trying to be funny, but - robo (sebring1970) 23:11:02 09/14/05 Ah yes, your first, but the second one I've read tonight. - zgene4 23:16:42 09/14/05 getting lazy on us? (n/m) - Zfreak(Omaha) 23:38:20 09/14/05 lol (n/m) - myzislow 19:24:54 09/14/05 =\ (n/m) - bjamin 19:29:06 09/14/05 I believe I would be accurate in saying that Z1 has - robo (sebring1970) 19:29:52 09/14/05 please provide hard data for your "accurate" statement. (n/m) - Spee 21:06:40 09/14/05 can't - robo (sebring1970) 21:37:27 09/14/05 lol - Spee 21:49:52 09/14/05 problem is there is no other evidence - robo (sebring1970) 21:53:25 09/14/05 I don't know, I don't have service records from any shops. - Spee 00:21:18 09/15/05 I'll break it down for you. Your playing Final Jeopardy - robo (sebring1970) 01:18:27 09/15/05 Stop wasting your time with him. (n/m) - FantasyZ 01:48:49 09/15/05 meh, I'm at work, it's slow, I'm staring at the computer. - robo (sebring1970) 01:58:20 09/15/05 "What is a shower? Dude! If you have to ask!" (n/m) - dpjax 09:23:03 09/15/05 Spee, I always figured you to be one of the smartest here. - ssm300z 10:59:25 09/15/05 can of worms = open (n/m) - mousersix (San Antonio) 19:31:07 09/14/05 *sigh* here we go again... (n/m) - tyler@boostpro.net 19:59:51 09/14/05 Why convert? - Zjustignoreme 19:32:59 09/14/05 Use search, been talked about to death! Plenty of ..... - lewoolf2 19:33:45 09/14/05 Yeah but im willing to bet 80% of it has been deleted (n/m) - sfpearl300z 19:36:42 09/14/05 Why? (n/m) - Spongerider :) 20:16:24 09/14/05 because these Z1 posts too often degenerate into - robo (sebring1970) 20:31:06 09/14/05 shut up fruitynuts - dogpile 21:15:37 09/14/05 don't make fun of my cereal (n/m) - robo (sebring1970) 21:38:19 09/14/05 Hey there. Looks like you're pretty new here. - longhornz32(Dallas) 19:34:24 09/14/05 poor car (n/m) - Zeus 19:35:53 09/14/05 I say go to SGP or ztech - suprakillinz 19:36:59 09/14/05 *conversion* times 2. (n/m) - tyler@boostpro.net 20:01:14 09/14/05 What you need is in search, try it... - dpjax 19:38:28 09/14/05 The general concensus here, is that the SWAP - DbestiZ1 19:45:54 09/14/05 I'm not sure I agree with your general consensus opinion. - robo (sebring1970) 19:50:34 09/14/05 yep, 2nd (n/m) - mousersix (San Antonio) 20:01:22 09/14/05 =) (n/m) - bjamin 20:04:42 09/14/05 For a guy that said he was not up to this you post a lot. (n/m) - Spongerider :) 20:19:57 09/14/05 yeah, I was kidding myself. Slow at work right now. (n/m) - robo (sebring1970) 20:27:41 09/14/05 Hehehe... (n/m) - Spongerider :) 20:31:12 09/14/05 he said "should be done" not "are done". (n/m) - Spee 21:13:36 09/14/05 still (n/m) - robo (sebring1970) 21:43:08 09/14/05 agree (n/m) - komplexZTT 20:08:14 09/14/05 well, you drive a turbo 2+2, so obviously there's some bias - robo (sebring1970) 20:10:58 09/14/05 You better say no dude (n/m) - sfpearl300z 20:18:06 09/14/05 2nd, it is cheaper to do the swap if you do it yourself. - rufflez 21:45:36 09/14/05 well lots of factors - komplexZTT 13:35:58 09/15/05 Some information/opinion to consider - Z U N L 20:06:39 09/14/05 I gotta do this..... - dirtyjerZ 22:34:37 09/14/05 "your search for Z1 and Shady returned 212,333 hits" - Zfreak(Omaha) 23:40:00 09/14/05 do some search/reading. this will get you started >>> - Z U N L 23:59:20 09/14/05 TROLL (n/m) - Barry'z (NJ) 20:14:36 09/14/05 give kyle a call at SGP....he is a great resource to talk to (n/m) - genic 20:48:00 09/14/05 Kyle is no longer at SGP (n/m) - Slowninja(GT28RS Inconel Z) 20:56:00 09/14/05 QUE'!?! (n/m) - myzislow 21:39:07 09/14/05 2nd, if you know something, spill it (n/m) - robo (sebring1970) 21:47:59 09/14/05 I don't know the details .. just that Kyle is not w/SGP - Slowninja(GT28RS Inconel Z) 21:58:22 09/14/05 Admin may not have known and thought it was rumor/bogus - SeedyROM 23:15:01 09/14/05 admin doesn't know alot abt Z1 and lets that "fly" .. - Slowninja(GT28RS Inconel Z) 07:08:00 09/15/05 Apples and oranges. - SeedyROM 12:43:36 09/15/05 actually. nevermind. (n/m) - Halo Z 19:23:07 09/15/05 It is true...I will make a formal announcement soon..... (n/m) - Kyle(Houston) 08:22:53 09/15/05 worthless time whole post (n/m) - Turnerscasa (Dallas) 21:01:57 09/14/05 and now you've made it so much better (n/m) - robo (sebring1970) 21:48:42 09/14/05 don't let them lay a hand on it. - Spee 21:05:02 09/14/05 that's a big 2nd. (n/m) - Zfreak(Omaha) 23:38:38 09/14/05 Re: don't let them lay a hand on it. - John@z1 09:34:38 09/15/05 I find it interesting that the Z1 haters tend to - AzHeat 13:23:01 09/15/05 lol (n/m) - Spee 17:13:02 09/15/05 He ripped me on the track? Did he tell you that? - Spee 17:12:23 09/15/05 If you want your car to stay in excellent condition. - WickedZX (NoVA) 21:59:24 09/14/05 seems silly to swap out a motor with such low miles. - maglito 23:50:17 09/14/05 Very humbling. (n/m) - CrazyGreek 04:50:50 09/15/05
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